11/24/2007 10:30:40 PM
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DaleHollow
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after reading the various posts involving charging and gases pros and cons on battries. Im sure like most decisions the trade offs is how one ultimately decides, perhaps u can get me going in the right direction
IM figureing on buying my first set of battries this coming spring, Ill be using the batteries to run house lights (sparingly) tv, dish, without knowing till my wiring is done this is all the info ...........Im interested in your thought on the brand type of batter's to purchase that are the safest and as close to maintenace free as possible. is there a such thing as a battery with a manufacture garantee of more than 5 year replacement, I have a boating partner I thought he told me his were garanted for 10 is this possible
I understand my details are vague as to usage and wattage storage isnt an issue
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11/25/2007 07:49:04 AM
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DaleHollow
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ted thats what i did this year, the walley worlds, and we live near our boat so our outtings are more overnights, short stays, and didnt depend much on the batt, power except for a few hours of house lights, what is a vsr I guess what I really need to figure out is how power i will need,
IM looking forwar to hearing different ones expand on there type battries and the pros and cons,
if anyone is listening this next 4 months (0f our winterized HB) would u advise me to keep a low amp battery charger going through my existing bank of battries,
one last if your still here, would it matter if the hook up 12 volt charger, went to the first batt. in line or hook up pos. 1st batt. neg to the last batt.
the 6 or 7 batts. i use are post. to post. & neg to neg now connected together. with low amperage charging sys. would I have any appreciable loss of liquid.
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11/25/2007 07:57:47 AM
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MILLERTYME
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i have 4 trojan T-125 6 volt wet cell (acid) batteries wired in a series/parallel curcuit with a 2500 watt inverter/charger that is wired to run both of my refrigerators on my boat and have gotten 2 seasons out of them with very minimal maintance.(check water level in them once a month) I run the refirgerators off them during the day when the generator is not on.(approx. 8-10hrs) and recharge during generator run time in the am & pm, approx 3 hrs in the morning and 4 after dark. The cost of the batteries was approx $120.00/per and i figured that they had paid for them selves in 1 season in generator gas alone. This is the first time i have had an invertor set-up and i am very pleased with its performance. Stick with the wet cell batteries for now, the others are to sensitive to charging and far more expensive.
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11/25/2007 08:13:53 AM
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DaleHollow
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miller tyme r u docked in ky, see that name or a similar one here on dale hollow
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11/25/2007 08:31:56 AM
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MILLERTYME
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No i boat on the Ohio River at Aurora, Indiana. Have had a boat under that name for 22 years, 1 ski boat, 1 cruiser, 2 houseboats.
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Port of Aurora IN
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11/25/2007 09:56:21 AM
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DaleHollow
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perhaps his is "time"
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Edited: 11/25/2007 at 09:57:25 AM by DaleHollow
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11/25/2007 06:39:23 PM
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MILLERTYME
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that is why we spelled Time with a Y to be different, a couple of years ago there was another boat around here with the same name, luckly he didn't venture out much so there was not a lot of confusion when someone called out for Miller Tyme on the radio.
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11/26/2007 08:13:38 PM
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Ike
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Dale,
If you want the scoop on batteries read this http://newboatbuilders.com/docs/BatteriesandChargers.
Next be aware that most batteries sold in the US are made by a handfull of companies and third party labeled and sold under hundreds of brand names including such as Diehard. So that expensive battery may be the same battery sold at Wal-Mart for 59.95.
More to the point, battery maintenance is probably more important than the batteries themselves. A good charger and battery monitor is essential. Checking the electrolyte level in wet cells is crucial. If you let those babies go dry they are dead dead dead. A good hygrometer is also an important tool for monitoring their condition.
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11/26/2007 10:23:41 PM
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DaleHollow
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Ike I tried to find the article but couldnt I got to the site, but no battery article perhaps there is a link i need to use.
will print the article and look at it no one seems to excited over the gel batt.
im surprised, any idea why not much talk about the gel batt.?
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Edited: 11/26/2007 at 10:39:16 PM by DaleHollow
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11/27/2007 06:21:36 AM
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stmbtwle
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I think the biggest reason is $$$$$$$
Here's another site that may be of interest. http://www.vonwentzel.net/Battery/index.html
http://www.vonwentzel.net/Battery/01.Type/index.html
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Edited: 11/27/2007 at 06:31:44 AM by stmbtwle
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11/27/2007 08:02:05 AM
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Skallywag
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Unless you plan on rolling your HB over, there is NO sense in spending big bucks on gel bats. There specific purpose is not needed in such a lazy surrounding.
A huge consideration you need to be aware of is 'compartmental size'. If you have the room you should opt for the 6v 200a golf cart batteries. They are very rugged and were designed for the specific reason of many deep charges. Don't buy the Cadillac if you really need the Jeep.
Also, no need to seperate the 12v circuit batteries from the batteries used with your inverter. Don't buy deep cycle batteries for your engine starting battery. Get a battery with the most 'CCA's' (cold cranking amps) required for your area and usage.
Skally
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11/27/2007 10:22:26 AM
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OLD HOUSEBOATER
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A lot of people are trying to fix something that aint broke. If you buy the largest CCA batteries for the case size you have installed and a good smart charger 99% of you will be in good shape. You should check your connections and levels once a month and enjoy. Extra battries special panels etc. cost bucks, have to be maintained, weigh a lot, have to have space provided for and cost extra fuel. I have been bosting for 50 years. I have never worn out an engine, never worn out a generator and never added anything to the electrical system that wasn't furnished with the boat. We boated a LOT, the generator started first and shut down last. Wonderful piece of machinery. Doesnt weigh that much and puts out tons of power.
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11/27/2007 10:51:03 AM
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Skallywag
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Originally posted by: OLD HOUSEBOATER
.....the generator started first and shut down last. Wonderful piece of machinery. Doesn't weigh that much and puts out tons of power.
I don't disagree with any of what you have said, but I would add; With any size gen set running 10 to 12 hours a day, every day, equals a lot of 'noise and air pollution', times any number of boats at the marina, would be a choking experience. Even if they are spread out all over any size body of water. Naturally, for those with marinas that offer shore power, this may not apply.
Our marina slips 425 boats. If they all used gen sets we couldn't breathe.
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11/27/2007 10:56:41 AM
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stmbtwle
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(If I roll my houseboat over, the LAST thing I'll be worrying about is the batteries!!!)
OHB has a valid point regarding the generator. My boat didn't have one, and rather than pay the premium for a diesel, install, fuel, maintain, and listen to the contraption I went with solar (I'm an old sailboater so maybe I'm biased). It works for me, but if you want gobs of power or air conditioning there's really not much choice.
If you already HAVE a generator; it makes more sense to use it and take care of it than anything else.
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11/27/2007 07:12:11 PM
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DaleHollow
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if anyone knows, what is the longest period of time a battery guranted for, there are some high end battreis showing up on the high end HB, i wouldnt even repeat what one hb er told me his batt. were guranted for.........I know its triva issue but if u know
do the agm (sp) carrying long warrenty's
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Edited: 11/27/2007 at 07:47:17 PM by DaleHollow
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11/28/2007 08:04:52 PM
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Ike
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Sorry Dale I left off the .pdf. I hate it when that happens
http://newboatbuilders.com/doc...tteriesandChargers.pdf
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