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Created On: 05/02/2008 08:13:14 AM
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 05/02/2008 08:13:14 AM
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Sgtdevildog
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I have and old crown head that I need to replace.  It's probably a 1986 and it sounds like I have a blender full of rocks when we flush it, to the point where boats 3 slips away can hear.  From reading the posts it seems like the Sea Era is the way to go, but I really don't want to re-plumb everything for the fresh water type.  I guess my question is for those familiar, is the raw water type going to be as noisy as my old crown, or should I look at the remote pump or just suck it up and try for the pressurized system?  I'm not totally inept at plumbing, but I'm not the best either.  Any thoughts appreciated.   Also, does anyone know what settings controls the typing?  This is my first post and when I type the message duplicates and looks "off" unless I hit the undo button?  Thanks in advance.  
 05/02/2008 09:52:27 AM
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You hit the right button. I have a 1984 model Crown head. Mine too was a bit noisy but worked fine. I went on the Raritan website and ordered a factory rebuilt base unit. You pay a certain amount for the unit but get a refund when you send yours back in the same box. They don't seem to care what shape yours is in because mine was solid rust in the outside. You keep your same toilet bowl. It is a real easy swap and though a new one is not silent it is certainly bearable. Good luck.

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 05/02/2008 10:45:30 AM
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I found the LBA on the website.  This then begs the question of which would be a better buy, a rebuilt base for the crown or an all new self-contained  Sea Era ?
 05/02/2008 12:07:24 PM
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I'm doing that exact swap this weekend, I'll let you know the results. BTW, I'm going back with raw water intergal pump. The remote pump sounded great, but $100 more.
 05/02/2008 12:09:11 PM
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The SeaEra "conversion" is the SeaEra LBA, and is a plug and play swap for the Crown LBA, and is about the same price. Raritan offers exchange terms for it, same as they do the Crown LBA. You'll be a lot happier with the SeaEra 'cuz it draws half the amperage, uses half the flush water, and is a lot quieter. Not to say that the raw water version is QUIET, but it is a whole lot quieter than the Crown.

The pressurized flush water version uses even less power and flush water, and actually  IS quiet...quieter even that most household toilets. And converting to the pressurized flush water version is easy...doesn't require any new wiring, just a re-routing of the flush water intake to connect to the cold water line wherever convenient--making sure to follow the directions in the manual to do that.

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 05/02/2008 12:45:57 PM
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So, if I understand correctly, the Crown bowl will bolt to the SeaEra conversion?  Also, in looking at the pressurized version it looked like I had to run a vacuum brake set-up behind and above the head correct?  Flatstick, I look forward to hearing of your experience.  Thanks for everyone's assistance.
 05/02/2008 08:59:08 PM
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Yes, the Crown bowl will bolt to the SeaEra LBA...and so will any other bowl that has the  same 4 bolt mounting pattern.

Installing the vacuum breaker and solenoid valve is easy. If you don't understand the instructions, call Vic Willman at Raritan: 800-352-5630 x 6

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 05/27/2008 10:00:17 AM
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Well, I finally got the change over done. Everything else got in the way. The Sea Era is much better than the old Crown head. Works better, not quite as loud. Wife is really happy about the larger holding tank.
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